Čitalec kartice ali kartica
Čitalec kartice ali kartica
Po menjavi alternatorja (original poginil) se nekaj dogaja z čitalcem kartice ali kartico samo (obe isto ?)
Ko se vstavi kartica v čitalnik se je do zdaj vedno slišal klik - mislim da takrat odklene volan in isto ko se vzame ven . Po omenjeni menjavi pa ta klik enkrat je večinoma pa ne . In ko je NE je volan pri tem nezaklenjen !!! Dela pa to isto pri obeh karticah .
Kaj bi to lahko bilo ??
Ko se vstavi kartica v čitalnik se je do zdaj vedno slišal klik - mislim da takrat odklene volan in isto ko se vzame ven . Po omenjeni menjavi pa ta klik enkrat je večinoma pa ne . In ko je NE je volan pri tem nezaklenjen !!! Dela pa to isto pri obeh karticah .
Kaj bi to lahko bilo ??
Re: Čitalec kartice ali kartica
in če držiš gumb start se volan odklene,če ja je velika verjetnost da je čitalec v okvari
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Preveri temo o popravilu čitalca kartice. Verjetno se je odlomil oz. ima slab stik en zobek, ki skrbi za prvi kontakt, odklepanje/zaklepanje volana in impulzni vžig. To je ponavadi pospremljeno še s tem, da moraš držati gum za zagon namesto, da ga samo stisneš.
Je pa kar pogost problem to. Reši te 20min dela in kapljica sekundnega lepila (servis pa za to hoče 400€)
Je pa kar pogost problem to. Reši te 20min dela in kapljica sekundnega lepila (servis pa za to hoče 400€)
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Re: Čitalec kartice ali kartica
Ne to ne bo !!
Tipka za start normalno deluje brez držanja .
Po razstavljanju pa tudi povem da moj čitalec nima nobenega jezička v notranjosti ,ki bi lahko bil polomljen .
Izgleda da je drugačen kot v temi za Laguno .

Tipka za start normalno deluje brez držanja .
Po razstavljanju pa tudi povem da moj čitalec nima nobenega jezička v notranjosti ,ki bi lahko bil polomljen .
Izgleda da je drugačen kot v temi za Laguno .
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Seveda ima jezičke, na kakšnem principu pa bi potem deloval? Ker avto sploh je in ker letnik?
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Ne pa jih pri meni ni !Jonathan napisal/-a:Seveda ima jezičke, na kakšnem principu pa bi potem deloval? Ker avto sploh je in ker letnik?
Še enkrat preverjeno .
Avto pa je Espace letnik 04
Re: Čitalec kartice ali kartica
Našel sem nekaj podobnih problemov na Angleškem forumu:
"A dirty or broken keycard reader can cause such problems. You could try vacuuming it - sometimes fluff or dust gets trapped inside. Failing that it's time to get it out and either get it repaired or replaced."
"Hi I had a card reader fault with my Espace Mk iV (05) - car locked/inlocked, lights would switch on, but no response to inserting either card. I took the plastic surround out from the central console (seemed best to take the recessed one out first, then the main one gently popped out), then gently squeezed the reader. It clicked, and then everything worked fine!"
"Keycard readers are prone to collecting dust - sometimes a vacuum with a the crevice tool of a vacuum cleaner helps. Other times it may involve removong the unit and cleaning with an electrical solvent cleaner. Plus the internal micro-switch levers are prone to breaking. "
Drgač pa, če jezičkov ni, so lahko že odlomljeni! Tukaj je slika identičnega problema iz avta istega letnika (le, da je 2.2 dci):


Še tekst:
"I have had the same problem with my 54reg espace, if you pressed on the key and wiggled it you could get the dash to come up and start the car.
I removed the card reader today, you remove the small storage bin underneath the card reader and then just gently remove the complete housing, it only clicks into place.
Disconnect all the wires and remove it from the car, the card reader it's self opens up easily using a small screwdriver on clips around the edge.
There are two microswitches inside that are pressed down by some small plastic tabs when you push the card in.
The plastic tabs had snapped of and where inside the case.
I have made some new plastic tabs and glued them in where the original ones where.
Tomorrow I will try the card in the reader and see if it has done the trick.
I have attached some pictures of the before and after the repair, the orange microswitches are on the top left of the picture."
"Hi All
A quick update on my card reader repair. I have refitted it back in my Espace and it fired up straight away.
Don't know how long my repair will last but so far it has been a complete suscess and it cost me nothing at all apart from a bit of time fiddling."
"A dirty or broken keycard reader can cause such problems. You could try vacuuming it - sometimes fluff or dust gets trapped inside. Failing that it's time to get it out and either get it repaired or replaced."
"Hi I had a card reader fault with my Espace Mk iV (05) - car locked/inlocked, lights would switch on, but no response to inserting either card. I took the plastic surround out from the central console (seemed best to take the recessed one out first, then the main one gently popped out), then gently squeezed the reader. It clicked, and then everything worked fine!"
"Keycard readers are prone to collecting dust - sometimes a vacuum with a the crevice tool of a vacuum cleaner helps. Other times it may involve removong the unit and cleaning with an electrical solvent cleaner. Plus the internal micro-switch levers are prone to breaking. "
Drgač pa, če jezičkov ni, so lahko že odlomljeni! Tukaj je slika identičnega problema iz avta istega letnika (le, da je 2.2 dci):
Še tekst:
"I have had the same problem with my 54reg espace, if you pressed on the key and wiggled it you could get the dash to come up and start the car.
I removed the card reader today, you remove the small storage bin underneath the card reader and then just gently remove the complete housing, it only clicks into place.
Disconnect all the wires and remove it from the car, the card reader it's self opens up easily using a small screwdriver on clips around the edge.
There are two microswitches inside that are pressed down by some small plastic tabs when you push the card in.
The plastic tabs had snapped of and where inside the case.
I have made some new plastic tabs and glued them in where the original ones where.
Tomorrow I will try the card in the reader and see if it has done the trick.
I have attached some pictures of the before and after the repair, the orange microswitches are on the top left of the picture."
"Hi All
A quick update on my card reader repair. I have refitted it back in my Espace and it fired up straight away.
Don't know how long my repair will last but so far it has been a complete suscess and it cost me nothing at all apart from a bit of time fiddling."
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Re: Čitalec kartice ali kartica
ne ga v prazno srat. Pametne kartice imajo drugačen čitalec, pri svoji laguni tudi nimam nobenega jezička in je drugačen votel čitalec, je luknja skozi na zadnji strani nima stranice in nobenga jezika. Mansus vprašanje je če je kaj z čitalcem, ker do zdaj kolko mam informacije s temi čitalci ni nobenih problemov, probaj menajt prvo baterije v karticah. Je pa res pri meni tudi včasih ko vstavim kartico odklene volan in da kontkakt včasih pa ne, in nimam altenatorja menjanega, je pa čisto odvisno kdaj to dela, sicer me ne moti ker v vsakem primeru moraš start gumb tiščat
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Ok, če bi imel info, da je kartica pametna, potem ne bi obračal pol angleškega foruma, da bi pomagal... Napisal je "Ko se vstavi kartica v čitalnik...". Pa sem smatral, da kartica ni pametna..
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Hmm ne razumem zakaj daješ kartico v čitalnik, če je pametna ?
Pri najinem meganu sploh ne vem kje je reža... se hitro razvadiš
Start in to je to.
Pri najinem meganu sploh ne vem kje je reža... se hitro razvadiš
Start in to je to.
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če boste rabili čitalec za pametno kartico espace ..je na zalogi..rabljen vendar delujoč..tel 031 538 280 janez ali ps....lp
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Kartica je navadna in ne pametna .
DrHouse hvala za izčrpno reportažo .
Po slikah sodeč imam cela oba jezička !
Izgleda da je problem v micro stikalu !
Prvi je verjetno za prisotnost kartice , drugi pa mislim da dela problem .
Bom zamenjal potem bomo pa videli .

DrHouse hvala za izčrpno reportažo .
Po slikah sodeč imam cela oba jezička !
Izgleda da je problem v micro stikalu !
Prvi je verjetno za prisotnost kartice , drugi pa mislim da dela problem .
Bom zamenjal potem bomo pa videli .

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Možno potem, da je kak hladni spoj slab. Bom malo pogooglal. Kar sem pa na splošno od napak glede čitalcev slišal, pa je bil v 99% kriv zlomljen jeziček. Pri merni, recimo, dvakrat.
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Potem jaz spadam pod tisti 1% .
Stikalo zamenjano in zadeva deluje .
Stikalo zamenjano in zadeva deluje .
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