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Hi,

I work for Fifth Gear on Channel Five – we’re just putting together our next series.

Next Monday (10th Nov) we’ve got a RenaultSport Twingo booked to film, and we’re thinking about putting it up against a Renault 5 GT Turbo on a track, as a new versus old style speed test. I was wondering if any of your forum members would be willing to lend us their car for the day? It would involve getting to Millbrook Proving Ground in Bedfordshire for about 8am on the Monday and staying until about 5pm. Obviously we’d cover all the petrol, food and accommodation necessary for whoever is involved – and if we ruined a set of tyres we’d obviously sort out a new set!

I’d like the car to be as original as possible, but it doesn’t have to be concours – just a tidy looking and mechanically sound, factory standard car. It’ll be a good chance for somebody to get their car on the telly, and I reckon the 5 would come out on top against the clock. It will either be Jason Plato or Tiff Needell doing the driving – they’ll get the best out of the car on the track, but be sympathetic to it’s age.

If anybody you know is interested, then feel free to pass on my email address or phone number, which is 0121 697 1923.

Hopefully speak to you soon.

All the best,
Graham Smiles
Assistant Producer

Fifth Gear

T: 0121 697 1923 |M: 07973 323960 |F: 0121 697 1950

If anyone is interested contact them !!

Big Steve Raider napisal/-a:Hi Guys,

Yes the rumours are true, i've put my car forward for the 5th Gear Shootout vs the Renaultsport Twingo 133.

Thanks to Lee for posting this on RTOC as well as here.

Pictures of my car:



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Should be a good show as she's very mecahnically sound so well up to giving the Twingo a run around Milbrook!!

Filming is now going to be next Monday & Jason Plato will be driving the it.

Wish me luck!!! :wink

5teve L napisal/-a:

First things first, let me make it perfectly clear; there is nothing glamorous about being on a TV Shoot! I've not been so wet & bleeding cold since double PE at school!!!

Arrived at Millbrook proving ground at 8:00am as requested & had to sign in at the gatehouse & turn in the Camera I had took with me - So sorry lads no behind the scenes footage for You-tube

After I was led into the Millbrook complex I finally got to the area where the crew & the cars were & got out & introduced myself. There were 5 camera crew & then two minders who worked for Millbrook whose job was to make sure we didn't go anywhere or do anything we shouldn't!

They were in the process of rigging up the Twingo Renault had supplied. Of course Renault had supplied a Cup version of the Twingo in Silver with the graphite 17 inch wheels & by the looks of its front tyres it had been thrashed round a circuit once or twice in it's short life thus far!!

Soon enough Jason Plato turned up in his Black 08 Reg Mercedes CL63 AMG which looked absolutely amazing & then proceeded to sit in it with the engine running staying dry whilst the rest of us stood outside getting wet.

First up were a few laps of the Handling Circuit of Millbrook to get to know the Twingo so Jason went out on his own to get a feel for the car. When he came in he got out & commented how it wasn't as gay as he thought it was going to be!!

He then got back into the car with the director in the back & they went out on the timing lap. The timing device used was very accurate & capable of picking up the slightest differences in the two cars.... It was either a Casio or a Sekonda watch!!

Whilst they were going round the track doing the timed circuits the rest of the crew were doing static shots of the car driving past in the pi$$ing rain!!!

All the time this was going on I was just left there to talk to the Millbrook Minders & take in the atmosphere of the place. Millbrook is an amazing place!!! For those of you who’ve never heard of the place before it’s the same place that Top Gear used to drive those three trucks around last weekend.

Whilst I stood there test drivers were piloting all these next generation cars around the place covered in all sorts of camouflage from zebra stripes to half a ND tent off the front & back going from one point of the facility to another. I could see a short stretch of the Top Speed Bowl & there were a few tasty pieces of kit running round there at top whack such as the new Lotus Evora (which I was told does about 168mph round the bowl). I also saw a load of the new Vauxhall Insignia’s which were still undergoing final testing.

Anyway soon enough Jason had finished the timed laps in the Twingo & then it was time for him to drive my car. At this point he acknowledged me as the owner & shook my hand & said hello before saying he would be careful with her & then driving off onto the circuit.

It sounded & looked absolutely wonderful as it went round & round the circuit with the exhaust shouting out the GTT Growl as best it could!! Again they just videoed it going round at this point before he came in & picked up the director to do the timed laps.

When the came back Jason got out & said that driving my car was more fun than driving the Twingo as it’s so much more Raw & you had to predict what the car was going to do rather than just let it do it’s thing like you would in the Twingo. I imagine that’s the effect of ESP & the progresses made in handling in 17 years!!! He said it definatly felt more 'grunty' than the Twingo.

After that they rigged my car with the internal cameras & Jason went out for his talkie bits to camera.

When he came in they moved onto a 57 reg Blue BMW 123d series & 08 Reg White Audi TTD which they were doing the same comparison with head to head on the track for another show. It turned out that they had bought the BMW as they could not get one from BMW themselves & that was going to be the giveaway on that weeks show.

Eventually the finished all the timing & we then moved around the track to other filming positions to get action of all four car’s driving round so Jason was just jumping from one car to another & doing a quick lap to show off to camera.

By 4:00pm it was getting dark & they had finished all the filming so I was let go & could go home to try & warm up again!! Thank god I only had a 30 minute drive home!!

I asked the guys when the feature will be on TV & they said that they didn’t know but the new series starts on the 5th Jan 2008 so I’m just going to have to watch the TV Listings like the rest of you..

Stupo napisal/-a:Zanimiv test, komaj cakam da se bo dalo ogledati na youtube.
Ce bi bila proga suha in ne prevec ovinkasta, sem pa preprican, da bi petka bila pred twingotom.
Twingo ima res dobrih 10KM vec, R5 je pa okoli 400kg lazja, ima pa najbrz twingo prednost pri podvozju, zato je tudi na testu bil pred R5.

Stupo napisal/-a:Twingo ima res dobrih 10KM vec, R5 je pa okoli 400kg lazja, ima pa najbrz twingo prednost pri podvozju, zato je tudi na testu bil pred R5.

mloncar napisal/-a:

Stupo napisal/-a:Twingo ima res dobrih 10KM vec, R5 je pa okoli 400kg lazja, ima pa najbrz twingo prednost pri podvozju, zato je tudi na testu bil pred R5.

Kaksnih 400kg.. ..po podatkih carfolio.com ima Twingo RS 1050kg, R5 GTT pa 850kg, torej razlika 200kg in 5ka ima 13KM manj.

Podvozje pri Twingu je sigurno boljse, ampak na mokrem imejo velik vpliv gume, ki so bile (po besedah voditelja) pri 5ki v kur**. In se strinjam z UrosRom, da ce bi bila 5ka na 15" z dobrimi gumami, bi bila razlika veliko manjsa.

Drmo napisal/-a:Stari, ce bi mel twingo rs 1500kg pol bi mel 13s od 0-100km/h...ce je pa to RS pol pa ne vem...
Kolkr jest berem ma twingo okol 1050, tam nekje kot clioII.